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. the administrative waste reduction is included in the obama care, but it's -- the implementation is extended, and it's not getting the attention or the push that it really deserves. >> now, a lot of people say that you know what's happening in health care right now is really changing a number of doctors' enthusiasm, willingness to be part of certainly medicare plans, be part of -- they feel that they are not getting paid the way they were. is there a downside there that some top doctors are no longer part of the system? >> well, our plan would actually pay physicians under medicare at 20 20122013 rates, get rid of some of the rates threatened under some of the proposals and freeze them at 20122013 rate and freeze them if physicians participated in high performance health systems or if they performed better than average in terms of quality and efficiency of care. so basically pay them fairly. stop the threats to reducing their fees, but then reward them when they perform well. >> how -- how are you going to police that, that they are performing well? i mean, i understand doing away with some of the e
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